[HSF] Price of heart surgery {OT}

[Nasser F. Abou'Seada]

Dear Tina

	I definitely agree with your concepts .... surely that applies to
cardiac surgery and all other aspects of life ...


NFA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com [mailto:openheart-l-
> bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of Tina i Mladen Kocica
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:45 AM
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Subject: RE: [HSF] Price of heart surgery {OT}
> 
> Yes. The end of the year is definitively good time to forget (for a few
> days) our real life and dedicate few thoughts to the phylosophy. The
problem
> and the story posted by Thomas has reminded me on Salieri and Mozart
affair.
> It is God's punishemnt to be able "to recognize" and not being able "to
do".
> The shapest criticizers are always average or poor performers. I feel
sorry
> for people mentioned in Thomas post. I am sure they would prefer to
operate,
> even with some mistakes from time to time ... But ... Such is life. In
> Nature's food chain there will always be species which survive by eating
the
> residue of real life. The solution for this problem is not to deal with
such
> carnivores, but to define "real-life" surgical protocols, which would
> encounter everything we relly expirience in the theatre, and not some list
> of nice desires. Thus, the informed consent would become the real one.
> 
> Best regards,
> Mladen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com
> [mailto:openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of Salerno, Tomas
> Sent: 17. decembar 2006 15:03
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com; OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Subject: RE: [HSF] Price of heart surgery {OT}
> 
> There is one item that we have not discussed in this forum, and is one
that
> has bothered me dearly. It has to do with colleagues, heart surgeons
> colleagues, who make their living doing plentif's work, and deposing
against
> cardiac surgeons. In some cases, such as it has happened to me recently,
it
> is very obvious that the cardiac surgeon has been paid to speak the voice
of
> the lawyer, without consideration for the clinical case, and the options
for
> treatment. The forum should take notice of these colleagues.
> 
> This kind of skill, developed by some cardiac surgeons, is deserving of
> discussion and mention, by name.  If it were not for these colleagues,
> lawyers would not have a case, and the issue of malpractice would have
been
> resolved long time ago. The problem is not the lawyers... the problem is
> that due to these colleagues, who have opted to make a living on
> complications of heart surgery
> 
> 
> 
> Tomas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> My appologies to the rest of this Forum, but I could not resist to make a
> proposal (I hope that Mark ad other colleagues would accept this Holiday
> mood and relaxation at the end of the day).
> My proposal is to establish international multimedi(c)al entertaining
group:
> "Cardiac Surgical Flying Circus". We could perform worldwide and provide
> more money and better position than our real profession allows. It seems
> that lots of cardiac surgeons have more than one skill, so why not use
this.
> 
> Best regards
> Mladen
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of prasannasimha
> Sent: 17. decembar 2006 06:44
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Subject: Re: [HSF] Price of heart surgery {OT}
> 
> I would shift to theoretical maths (number and Group theory) !! Analysis
of
> singularities has always been my craving- had to abruptly dump it for a
> career in medicine which I deemed a greater craving at the age of 16 !!
> 
> Prasanna
> Hgrmd at aol.com wrote:
> > Prasanna,
> >   If I knew I could make a decent living as a musician, it would be
> > very tempting since it really is my first love.
> > Hal
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