[HSF] Price of heart surgery {OT}

Nasser F. Abou'Seada nfaabouseada at gmail.com
Tue Dec 19 09:44:09 EST 2006


Dear Ahmed 
I practice in Cairo.
have a look at my website ..  
www.nasser.abouseada.net.ms    by no way complete .... yet gives an idea ..
!!
is your question related to the prices of Cardiac Surgery ?
?? referring a patient ? 
different hospitals .... different types and classes of patients ...
different fees .. 
some patients you charge ... some you don't .... some you donate to .... ...

you can certainly email me privately 
Happy Eid .... Festive Greetings ..

NFA 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com [mailto:openheart-l-
> bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of A
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 1:54 PM
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Subject: RE: [HSF] Price of heart surgery {OT}
> 
> Nasser:
> Where in Egypt do you practice? Thanks
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com
> [mailto:openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of Nasser F.
> Abou'Seada
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:56 AM
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Subject: RE: [HSF] Price of heart surgery {OT}
> 
> Dear Tina
> 
> 	I definitely agree with your concepts .... surely that applies to
> cardiac surgery and all other aspects of life ...
> 
> 
> NFA
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com [mailto:openheart-l-
> > bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of Tina i Mladen Kocica
> > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:45 AM
> > To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> > Subject: RE: [HSF] Price of heart surgery {OT}
> >
> > Yes. The end of the year is definitively good time to forget (for a few
> > days) our real life and dedicate few thoughts to the phylosophy. The
> problem
> > and the story posted by Thomas has reminded me on Salieri and Mozart
> affair.
> > It is God's punishemnt to be able "to recognize" and not being able "to
> do".
> > The shapest criticizers are always average or poor performers. I feel
> sorry
> > for people mentioned in Thomas post. I am sure they would prefer to
> operate,
> > even with some mistakes from time to time ... But ... Such is life. In
> > Nature's food chain there will always be species which survive by eating
> the
> > residue of real life. The solution for this problem is not to deal with
> such
> > carnivores, but to define "real-life" surgical protocols, which would
> > encounter everything we relly expirience in the theatre, and not some
list
> > of nice desires. Thus, the informed consent would become the real one.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Mladen
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com
> > [mailto:openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of Salerno,
Tomas
> > Sent: 17. decembar 2006 15:03
> > To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com; OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> > Subject: RE: [HSF] Price of heart surgery {OT}
> >
> > There is one item that we have not discussed in this forum, and is one
> that
> > has bothered me dearly. It has to do with colleagues, heart surgeons
> > colleagues, who make their living doing plentif's work, and deposing
> against
> > cardiac surgeons. In some cases, such as it has happened to me recently,
> it
> > is very obvious that the cardiac surgeon has been paid to speak the
voice
> of
> > the lawyer, without consideration for the clinical case, and the options
> for
> > treatment. The forum should take notice of these colleagues.
> >
> > This kind of skill, developed by some cardiac surgeons, is deserving of
> > discussion and mention, by name.  If it were not for these colleagues,
> > lawyers would not have a case, and the issue of malpractice would have
> been
> > resolved long time ago. The problem is not the lawyers... the problem is
> > that due to these colleagues, who have opted to make a living on
> > complications of heart surgery
> >
> >
> >
> > Tomas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My appologies to the rest of this Forum, but I could not resist to make
a
> > proposal (I hope that Mark ad other colleagues would accept this Holiday
> > mood and relaxation at the end of the day).
> > My proposal is to establish international multimedi(c)al entertaining
> group:
> > "Cardiac Surgical Flying Circus". We could perform worldwide and provide
> > more money and better position than our real profession allows. It seems
> > that lots of cardiac surgeons have more than one skill, so why not use
> this.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Mladen
> >
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com
> > [mailto:openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of
prasannasimha
> > Sent: 17. decembar 2006 06:44
> > To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> > Subject: Re: [HSF] Price of heart surgery {OT}
> >
> > I would shift to theoretical maths (number and Group theory) !! Analysis
> of
> > singularities has always been my craving- had to abruptly dump it for a
> > career in medicine which I deemed a greater craving at the age of 16 !!
> >
> > Prasanna
> > Hgrmd at aol.com wrote:
> > > Prasanna,
> > >   If I knew I could make a decent living as a musician, it would be
> > > very tempting since it really is my first love.
> > > Hal



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