[HSF] complicationsincardiacsurgery Wiki

Wed Nov 1 08:00:14 EST 2006

Dear Prasanna 
I do agree with your concept ... not against it at all .... please revise my
email ... first one to ask to count me in ...... 
also I do agree with your concepts about free flow of / and free access to
information -vs knowledge- I totally disagree -albeit in vain ... of no
value- to restricted access to scientific journals .... should the medical
community be really looking for advancement and progress ... vs
merchandising and experimenting on the expense of the weaker sides of
humanity as a community ..... 
nevertheless ....
this is NOT the issue I'm discussing or that I meant ......
I meant that one should be very vigilant to minimize all side effects by all
and whatever means ..... the first of all is to avoid the Bloody suckers as
they have been quoted ........ mind you .... I have no such harassments in
my country of the kind .. by virtue of ignorance ....... mind you .... many
of my discussions on the forum ... that I had to withstand a harsh style of
discussion .... were essentially cause I touched a hidden sore spot .....
mentioning the legitimate responsibility of a surgeon towards a non-standard
practice ......... !!!! ... of course you do remember that .... 

Still .... 
I do agree with you about the importance of the concurrent human factor /
variable .... in substantiating a well documented evidence based practice
...... no doubt about that ..... even in some countries Holy Books, as you
have implied "with reservation on quoting the analogy" .... the Human
Variable of interpreting the revealed meaning is essential ..... a relation
that has been thoroughly discussed and judged .. some 900-1200 years ago
.... I'm sure you do recall the Infamous scholar "Ibn Hazm" and  philosopher
"Ibn Khaldoun" ...

Being vigilant .... does not by any means count against the idea .....
meanwhile ....... there is a good idea that I have seen on GE radiology
website .... where access to the medical site is restricted exclusively to
medical profession ..... the site and the idea look appealing ..... why not
give it a thought ........ 
Faisal Cheema can surely help you with that .... 

I'm not against the idea ........ by all means ....... au contraire .... I'm
having no harm in my part of the world .... as I'm sure you to be the same
......... albeit .... to my mind ... I think one should be careful with
touching sore points -Tomas Salerno gave me the first advise that Hal later
explained to me .... about the use of TEXT BOOKS .... .. first time that
I've joined HSF- 

as I said ......the efforts required are tremendous ..... yet the goal is a
great one as well .... with whatever means of vigilance, protection and
responsible indemnity notes ...!!!!!!  ..... 
I'd be very grateful if to be of any help ...... 

NFA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com [mailto:openheart-l-
> bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of psimha
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:05 AM
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Subject: Re: [HSF] complicationsincardiacsurgery Wiki
> 
> Nasser - knowledge flow cannot be suppressed - it can be accessed by
> those who are interested and also determined to get it !!
> The wiki format will allow interested people to easily access it. As I
> said there will be appropriate disclaimers  and references to it in
> every page.
> here are whole text books to feed the lawyers grist but remember no
> textbook or document can be admitted without a human collaboration in
> the evidence act except probably in some countries holy books  but even
> these have to be quoted and concurred by a human interpreter. Remember
> that the Internet  precisely has benefited humanity by its "open
> access". There will always be people misusing it as is everything else
> in life.
> At  present Dr Bidstrup and Faisal Cheema have agreed to help in
> moderators. Don has too agree to the idea.
> I hope I get the approval from Wikia and if it goes through we can start.
> Proably we can start with
>  step 1 Patient preparation
> step 2 Induction of the patient
> Step 3 Cannulation for CPB
> Prasanna
> Nasser F. Abou'Seada wrote:
> > I concur with Don ... is there a way to make it a private domain ? ..
not
> > necessarily a wiki one ..!
> >
> >
> > NFA
> >
> >
> >> From: Donald Ross
> >> Dear Prasanna,
> >> Since the Wiki is in the public domain it will readily become a
> >> heavily bookmarked link for the litigation lawyers and perhaps may
> >> not be a good idea after all?
> >> What do the rest of you think?
> >> Don
> >>
> >> On 31/10/2006, at 1:32 PM, prasannasimha wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Dear All,
> >>> I have given a request for the complicationsincardiacsurgery wiki.
> >>> The request will probably take 7 days to materialize.
> >>> If I get approval, I will give  details and we will then be able to
> >>> create our Wiki.
> >>> I have registered it at Wikia. The original Wiki wiki.
> >>> Of created, I would request  people to help me out.
> >>> All the people who would like to join as a moderator/ monitoring
> >>> team , please email me.
> >>> Prasanna
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