[HSF] redo double valve

Nasser F. Abou'Seada nfaabouseada at gmail.com
Mon Oct 16 05:34:31 EDT 2006


Incidentally ...... EXCISION of a pannus is certainly inviting for the
re-growth of a new one !!!!!! .......... 

NFA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com [mailto:openheart-l-
> bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of prasannasimha
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:38 PM
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Subject: Re: [HSF] redo double valve
> 
> Ani,
> Pannus excision can be done many a time to save a prosthesis. It has
> been done multiple times and Dr Sampath  Kumar of AIIMS Delhi has
> demonstrated it many a times very elegantly in various workshops. I have
> also done this at times  with good results. Remember that a pannus is a
> reaction to a foreign body and you can get a Pannus again even if you
> change the valve. Its the foreign body that counts !!
> Last week on follow up, I have a Doctor who had undergone an AVR (Sorin)
> 12 years back. 3 years back he came with prosthetic obstruction and I
> only needed to do a Pannus excision. There was immediate relief of
> gradients that has been maintained over 3 years. I do agree that if the
> Pannus has invaded into the hinge points etc then pannus excision may
> not be possible without damaging the valve and then excision would be
> the rule.
> Prasanna
> 
> Ani Anyanwu wrote:
> > Dear Dr Gammie
> >
> > Did you open the left atrium widely and insert the scope or did you put
the
> videoscope through a stab incision? Sounds rather slick and maybe
something we
> could do like in endocarditis cases  and reops where we just need to
visually inspect
> the valve.
> >
> > BTW  is there a chance this pannus could recur? One of my old bosses
once told me
> that the treatment for pannus round a mechanical valve was always to
change the
> prosthesis and if it is merely scraped away it would recur. I do not know
if his view
> was based on any evidence or just anecdote and would be keen to learn from
the
> experience of senior members in this regards.
> >
> > Ani Anyanwu
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: James S Gammie<mailto:gammie at comcast.net>
> >   To:
OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com<mailto:OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>
> >   Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:32 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [HSF] redo double valve
> >
> >
> >   Wanted to thank my friends on the HSF for sage advice on my patient
with
> >   prior double mechanical valve replacements.
> >
> >   Operated on her today: straightforward redo sternotomy;  previous
surgeon
> >   used a large patch (?dacron) on the aortotomy; it was
> >   heavily calcified, so i excised it.  You guys were on the money re
pannus:
> >   there was a ring-like band of pannus just below the aortic valve;
> >   removed old valved, completetely debrided annulus, and extended
aortotomy
> >   down through annulus and beyond about 1 cm, stopping just
> >   before roof of left atrium (is this a nicks or manouguian, i am not
sure..);
> >   used a bullet-shaped dacron patch to reconstruct and was able
> >   to insert a 21 HP St Jude valve.  Before doing so got a good look at
the
> >   mitral through the lvot: there was a ring of pannus here, as well;
> >   was able to peel that off with a rongeur quite nicely; videoscope then
> >   confirmed no obstruction of valve on either side.
> >   Post op tee gradient across mitral down to 4, doing great in icu.
> >   Thanks for help
> >   jsg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Interested in the forum's opinion on this case:
> >   >
> >   > 24 yo female s/p AVR/MVR with mechanical valves at age 12 (12 years
ago)
> >   > for rheumatic disease.
> >   >
> >   > Presents with progressive dyspnea, now with minimal exertion.  Did
well
> >   > after initial operation.
> >   >
> >   > Old operative note not available, cardiology letter states that a 19
St
> >   > Jude valve placed in aortic position along
> >   > with an "enlargement" procedure, and a 27 in mitral position.  Early
> >   > postop a gradient of 38 noted across aortic valve (not stated if
mean or
> >   > peak).  St jude medical has record of 19 HP insertion in aortic
position,
> >   > no record of mitral.
> >   >
> >   > Patient is about 5 ft 6 inches 200 pounds, and was that size at age
12.
> >   >
> >   > Fluoroscopy shows all leaflets moving normally.  Also confirmed on
TEE and
> >   > MSCT.  Normal ejection performance.
> >   >
> >   > Gradient across aortic valve = 100 peak, 55 mean.  No subvalvular
> >   > obstruction.
> >   >
> >   > Gradient across mitral valve (mean) = 12.  Measurement of ID of
mitral
> >   > valve on MSCT suggests it may actually be a size 25 valve.
> >   >
> >   > Would be delighted to have any advice from forum on managment.  Am
> >   > particularly puzzled with mitral gradient in the presence of
normally
> >   > functioning reasonably sized valve.
> >
> >
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