[HSF] redo double valve

Nasser F. Abou'Seada nfaabouseada at gmail.com
Mon Oct 16 05:35:30 EDT 2006


I totally concur with Hal's debate ... 

NFA

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> bounces at lists.hsforum.com] On Behalf Of hgrmd at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:19 AM
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Subject: Re: [HSF] redo double valve
> 
>  Ani,
>   Now that I think about it, I would agree with your concerns regarding
the treatment
> of the pannus.  I've always treated it by replacing the valve.  It's hard
to imagine that
> pannus removal could be as complete with the approach that James used.
I've never
> heard of any study comparing debridement versus re-replacement for
treatment of
> obstructive pannus formation.  It'll be interesting to observe subsequent
echos in
> James's case.
> Hal
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anianyanwu at hotmail.com
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Sent: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [HSF] redo double valve
> 
> 
> Dear Dr Gammie
> 
> Did you open the left atrium widely and insert the scope or did you put
the
> videoscope through a stab incision? Sounds rather slick and maybe
something we
> could do like in endocarditis cases  and reops where we just need to
visually
> inspect the valve.
> 
> BTW  is there a chance this pannus could recur? One of my old bosses once
told
> me that the treatment for pannus round a mechanical valve was always to
change
> the prosthesis and if it is merely scraped away it would recur. I do not
know if
> his view was based on any evidence or just anecdote and would be keen to
learn
> from the experience of senior members in this regards.
> 
> Ani Anyanwu
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: James S Gammie<mailto:gammie at comcast.net>
>   To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com<mailto:OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>
>   Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:32 PM
>   Subject: Re: [HSF] redo double valve
> 
> 
>   Wanted to thank my friends on the HSF for sage advice on my patient with
>   prior double mechanical valve replacements.
> 
>   Operated on her today: straightforward redo sternotomy;  previous
surgeon
>   used a large patch (?dacron) on the aortotomy; it was
>   heavily calcified, so i excised it.  You guys were on the money re
pannus:
>   there was a ring-like band of pannus just below the aortic valve;
>   removed old valved, completetely debrided annulus, and extended
aortotomy
>   down through annulus and beyond about 1 cm, stopping just
>   before roof of left atrium (is this a nicks or manouguian, i am not
sure..);
>   used a bullet-shaped dacron patch to reconstruct and was able
>   to insert a 21 HP St Jude valve.  Before doing so got a good look at the
>   mitral through the lvot: there was a ring of pannus here, as well;
>   was able to peel that off with a rongeur quite nicely; videoscope then
>   confirmed no obstruction of valve on either side.
>   Post op tee gradient across mitral down to 4, doing great in icu.
>   Thanks for help
>   jsg
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Interested in the forum's opinion on this case:
>   >
>   > 24 yo female s/p AVR/MVR with mechanical valves at age 12 (12 years
ago)
>   > for rheumatic disease.
>   >
>   > Presents with progressive dyspnea, now with minimal exertion.  Did
well
>   > after initial operation.
>   >
>   > Old operative note not available, cardiology letter states that a 19
St
>   > Jude valve placed in aortic position along
>   > with an "enlargement" procedure, and a 27 in mitral position.  Early
>   > postop a gradient of 38 noted across aortic valve (not stated if mean
or
>   > peak).  St jude medical has record of 19 HP insertion in aortic
position,
>   > no record of mitral.
>   >
>   > Patient is about 5 ft 6 inches 200 pounds, and was that size at age
12.
>   >
>   > Fluoroscopy shows all leaflets moving normally.  Also confirmed on TEE
and
>   > MSCT.  Normal ejection performance.
>   >
>   > Gradient across aortic valve = 100 peak, 55 mean.  No subvalvular
>   > obstruction.
>   >
>   > Gradient across mitral valve (mean) = 12.  Measurement of ID of mitral
>   > valve on MSCT suggests it may actually be a size 25 valve.
>   >
>   > Would be delighted to have any advice from forum on managment.  Am
>   > particularly puzzled with mitral gradient in the presence of normally
>   > functioning reasonably sized valve.
> 
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