[HSF] Death on waiting list

[Michael Firstenberg]

Oh yeah - here in the U.S. we dont even wait for the blood bank (they can
often be a rate limiting step)


-michael


On 4/16/07, Jacob Lavee, MD <jaylavee at netvision.net.il> wrote:
>
> Ben,
> Obviously the waiting time clock starts ticking the moment we've finished
> our thorough assessment of the patient...
> but usually, by the time we have finished this assessment the
> cross-matched
> packed cells are already waiting... :)
>
> Jay
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Bidstrup" <benjamin.bidstrup at bigpond.com>
> To: <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [HSF] Death on waiting list
>
>
> > But does that give the team time to fully assess the patient?
> >
> >>In Israel the waiting time is about the time it takes our Blood Bank to
> >>prepare 2 units of cross-matched packed cells...
> >>
> >>Jay Lavee
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Salerno, Tomas"
> >><TSalerno at med.miami.edu>
> >>To: <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>; <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>
> >>Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:35 AM
> >>Subject: RE: [HSF] Death on waiting list
> >>
> >>>waiting lists in the USA are in general about one hour
> >>>
> >>>TS
> >>>
> >>>________________________________
> >>>
> >>>From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com on behalf of Tea Acuff
> >>>Sent: Mon 4/16/2007 12:32 AM
> >>>To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> >>>Subject: Re: [HSF] Death on waiting list
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>About the only waiting going on in the United States of America (no
> ugly
> >>>"American" short hand) is over the weekend. Excepting the Veterans
> >>>Administration Hospitals of course.
> >>>tea edward acuff junior medical doctor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----
> >>>From: Tina i Mladen Kocica <kocica at sezampro.yu>
> >>>To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> >>>Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:59 PM
> >>>Subject: [HSF] Death on waiting list
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Our heart surgery waiting lists (WL), here in Serbia, are permanently
> >>>growing, with today average of about 1000 people per centre annualy. It
> >>>seems that we do not make them properly, since death rate on WL is also
> >>>permanetly increasing (from 8% three years ago to 15% last year).
> >>>Questions:
> >>>1) General opinion about WL for heart surgery (ethics)?
> >>>2) Criteria? Who makes them?
> >>>3) Your annual WL load?
> >>>4) Your WL mortality?
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>Mladen
> >>>
> >>>Mladen J. Kocica, M.D.
> >>>
> >>>Clinic for Cardiac Surgery
> >>>
> >>>Institute for Cardiovascular Diseases
> >>>
> >>>UC Clinical Centre of Serbia
> >>>
> >>>8th Kosta Todorovic St.
> >>>
> >>>11000 Belgrade
> >>>
> >>>Serbia
> >>>
> >>>Tel: + 381 (11) 3670609
> >>>
> >>>Fax: + 381 (11) 3610880
> >>>
> >>>E-mail:  <mailto:kocica at sezampro.yu> kocica at sezampro.yu
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