[HSF] Death on waiting list

Tue Apr 17 16:50:12 EDT 2007

In Argentina can be the time to the blood bank prepare one unit or the rest
of the patient life, that depend the health that the patient have.

Patricio Villanueva

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jacob Lavee, MD" <jaylavee at netvision.net.il>
To: <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [HSF] Death on waiting list

> Ben,
> Obviously the waiting time clock starts ticking the moment we've finished
> our thorough assessment of the patient...
> but usually, by the time we have finished this assessment the
> cross-matched packed cells are already waiting... :)
>
> Jay
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ben Bidstrup" <benjamin.bidstrup at bigpond.com>
> To: <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [HSF] Death on waiting list
>
>
>> But does that give the team time to fully assess the patient?
>>
>>>In Israel the waiting time is about the time it takes our Blood Bank to
>>>prepare 2 units of cross-matched packed cells...
>>>
>>>Jay Lavee
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Salerno, Tomas"
>>><TSalerno at med.miami.edu>
>>>To: <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>; <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>
>>>Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:35 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [HSF] Death on waiting list
>>>
>>>>waiting lists in the USA are in general about one hour
>>>>
>>>>TS
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>
>>>>From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com on behalf of Tea Acuff
>>>>Sent: Mon 4/16/2007 12:32 AM
>>>>To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [HSF] Death on waiting list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>About the only waiting going on in the United States of America (no ugly
>>>>"American" short hand) is over the weekend. Excepting the Veterans
>>>>Administration Hospitals of course.
>>>>tea edward acuff junior medical doctor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----
>>>>From: Tina i Mladen Kocica <kocica at sezampro.yu>
>>>>To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
>>>>Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:59 PM
>>>>Subject: [HSF] Death on waiting list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Our heart surgery waiting lists (WL), here in Serbia, are permanently
>>>>growing, with today average of about 1000 people per centre annualy. It
>>>>seems that we do not make them properly, since death rate on WL is also
>>>>permanetly increasing (from 8% three years ago to 15% last year).
>>>>Questions:
>>>>1) General opinion about WL for heart surgery (ethics)?
>>>>2) Criteria? Who makes them?
>>>>3) Your annual WL load?
>>>>4) Your WL mortality?
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Mladen
>>>>
>>>>Mladen J. Kocica, M.D.
>>>>
>>>>Clinic for Cardiac Surgery
>>>>
>>>>Institute for Cardiovascular Diseases
>>>>
>>>>UC Clinical Centre of Serbia
>>>>
>>>>8th Kosta Todorovic St.
>>>>
>>>>11000 Belgrade
>>>>
>>>>Serbia
>>>>
>>>>Tel: + 381 (11) 3670609
>>>>
>>>>Fax: + 381 (11) 3610880
>>>>
>>>>E-mail:  <mailto:kocica at sezampro.yu> kocica at sezampro.yu
>>>>
>>>>URL:  <http://www.kocica.org/> www.kocica.org
>>>>
>>>>URL:  <http://www.ctsnet.org/home/mkocica> www.ctsnet.org/home/mkocica
>>>>
>>>>URL:  <http://www.srscvs.org/> www.srscvs.org
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Ben Bidstrup FRACS FRCSEd FEBCTS
>> Consultant Cardiothoracic Surgeon
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