[HSF] Death on waiting list

[smschwartz at mac.com]

Michael, Michael.
So young, such a cynic.

SMSMD

-----Original Message-----

From:  Michael Firstenberg <msfirst at gmail.com>
Subj:  Re: [HSF] Death on waiting list
Date:  Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:54 am
Size:  2K
To:  OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com

Since we do bloodless cardiac surgery and our transfusion rate is 0.00004% -
we dont even call blood bank

-michael


On 4/17/07, Dr Patricio Villanueva <pfvil at intramed.net> wrote:
>
> In Argentina can be the time to the blood bank prepare one unit or the
> rest
> of the patient life, that depend the health that the patient have.
>
> Patricio Villanueva
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jacob Lavee, MD" <jaylavee at netvision.net.il>
> To: <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [HSF] Death on waiting list
>
>
> > Ben,
> > Obviously the waiting time clock starts ticking the moment we've
> finished
> > our thorough assessment of the patient...
> > but usually, by the time we have finished this assessment the
> > cross-matched packed cells are already waiting... :)
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ben Bidstrup" <benjamin.bidstrup at bigpond.com>
> > To: <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [HSF] Death on waiting list
> >
> >
> >> But does that give the team time to fully assess the patient?
> >>
> >>>In Israel the waiting time is about the time it takes our Blood Bank to
> >>>prepare 2 units of cross-matched packed cells...
> >>>
> >>>Jay Lavee
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Salerno, Tomas"
> >>><TSalerno at med.miami.edu>
> >>>To: <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>; <OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com>
> >>>Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:35 AM
> >>>Subject: RE: [HSF] Death on waiting list
> >>>
> >>>>waiting lists in the USA are in general about one hour
> >>>>
> >>>>TS
> >>>>
> >>>>________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>>From: openheart-l-bounces at lists.hsforum.com on behalf of Tea Acuff
> >>>>Sent: Mon 4/16/2007 12:32 AM
> >>>>To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> >>>>Subject: Re: [HSF] Death on waiting list
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>About the only waiting going on in the United States of America (no
> ugly
> >>>>"American" short hand) is over the weekend. Excepting the Veterans
> >>>>Administration Hospitals of course.
> >>>>tea edward acuff junior medical doctor
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----
> >>>>From: Tina i Mladen Kocica <kocica at sezampro.yu>
> >>>>To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:59 PM
> >>>>Subject: [HSF] Death on waiting list
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Our heart surgery waiting lists (WL), here in Serbia, are permanently
> >>>>growing, with today average of about 1000 people per centre annualy.
> It
> >>>>seems that we do not make them properly, since death rate on WL is
> also
> >>>>permanetly increasing (from 8% three years ago to 15% last year).
> >>>>Questions:
> >>>>1) General opinion about WL for heart surgery (ethics)?
> >>>>2) Criteria? Who makes them?
> >>>>3) Your annual WL load?
> >>>>4) Your WL mortality?
> >>>>
> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>Mladen
> >>>>
> >>>>Mladen J. Kocica, M.D.
> >>>>
> >>>>Clinic for Cardiac Surgery
> >>
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