[HSF] Inotropes, ventricular fibrillation and myocardial
protection
Ben Bidstrup
benjamin.bidstrup at bigpond.com
Wed Aug 1 13:56:53 EDT 2007
I beg respectfully to differ. The lidocaine (a fast Na channel
blocker) is all but gone after a short while in the cardioplegia
scenario. Getting a suitable level back into the circulation and thus
the heart at release of the clamp is what is needed.
Perhaps a randomised study is in the offing.
http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/79/5/1106
This reference relates to defib energy levels but i think you will
see where I am coming from.
At James Cook, I was involved in the development of a non
depolarising cardioplegia solution, which is slowly working its way
up the development path. The main components are lidocaine and
adenosine.
>Ben,
>I use Amiadorone in the pump for all emazes (and postop) and
>Amiadorone in the pump for all aortic valves. Since the St Thomas
>Cardioplegia (which we mix in blood) already has procaine adding
>Lignocaine would be redundant.(Incidentally Amiadorone is very cheap
>in India !!)
>Prasanna
>Ben Bidstrup wrote:
>>Why the amiodarone. Surely with some perfusion, the electrolyte
>>imbalances within the myocardium would correct and SR ensue. If
>>anything use lidocaine. Less toxic and cheaper, not a negative
>>inotrope. It is what Yacoub taught me many years ago, and I have
>>used it to good effect (infrequently I might add).
>>
>>>Tohru,
>>> I did an AVR on an 87 yo man as a 2nd case just a couple of
>>>hours ago. Again, no LV vent, only a sump. While closing the
>>>aortotomy, I began the
>>>continuous warm retrograde blood. The heart began fibrillating
>>>after a couple of
>>>minutes. I gave amio and then cardioverted. The heart had a
>>>slow junctional
>>>rhythm until the clamp was released. A sinus rhythm developed shortly
>>>afterwards. He came off with no inotropes. It's much easier on
>>>the heart and
>>>your nerves to cardiovert a clamped, flaccid heart rather than
>>>trying to do it
>>>after the clamp has been released.
>>> I look forward to your visit at the STS. As I said before, I'll try to
>>>have a couple of interesting cases for you and other interested
>>>members of HSF
>>>to watch and criticize to your heart's content.
>>>
>>>Hal
>>>
>>>
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