[HSF] Paper Journals in an Internet age.

Mon Jan 1 19:54:19 EST 2007

Also most importantly Rehn's paper on the first successful attempt at 
cardiac suture.
Prasanna

prasannasimha wrote:
> I am trying to do some but have to get the time and teh Mood !! If 
> some one can send me some of these important ones like Gibbon's 
> original paper which was impossible for me to get hands on we could 
> make one large collection of the "Most Important papers in Cardiac 
> surgery".
> If we could agree to a list of 50 most important papers we could try 
> to collect them and make them into one large PDF with a brief write up 
> of them and why they were so important.
> For starters
> Alexis Carrel's vascular suture paper.
> Jay Macleans paper on Heparin
> Gibbons' original paper
> Bigelow's work on hypothermia with ennis first clinical attempt.
> Andreas and Watson's controlled cross circulation (Paper I never got 
> to see)
> Lillehei's controlled cross circulation.
> Kirklin's initial series.
> Bharati and Lev's paper on the conduction system in relation to VSD's
> Jatenes original paper on the arterial switch
> Fontan's original paper
> Zuhdi et al  paper on hemodilution with the paper by Cooley added to it.
> Castaneda's paper on neonatal correction.
> Horiuchi's paper of circulatory arrest with the subsequent paper by 
> Barret Boyes.
> Debakey and Cooley's paper on aortic arch aneurysm's
> Laks stitch for controllable ASD
> Kantrowitz's paper on IABP.
>
> That is an initial list off hand.
>
> Prasanna
>
>
>
>
> Michael Firstenberg wrote:
>> Ahhh, those where the days - I remember using some online reference 
>> systems and thinking wow, this is great.
>>
>> Prasanna - what would it take to get some copies of some of those 
>> early papers?  (ie scanned PDFs?)
>>
>> -michael
>>
>>
>> On Jan 1, 2007, at 12:00 AM, prasannasimha wrote:
>>
>>> For me it is very plain and simple. If I were to subscribe to ATS, 
>>> JTCVS and EJTCVS, I would have to spend nearly Rs 10,000/= approx 
>>> per month and that is impossible for me. So I rely on the Hospital 
>>> Library which gets journals at its own time depending on 
>>> subscriptions and vagaries of airmail. We have a thing called 
>>> Helinet.This is a system where our hospital subscribes via our 
>>> Health university (we have a single university for all medical 
>>> colleges in Karnataka state) to an Internet based service called 
>>> HELINET through which we can access certain journals via things like 
>>> science direct , Ovid etc but unfortunately the only cardiac surgery 
>>> journal is ATS and that too its payment (and hence access) is a bit 
>>> erratic. I usually get articles of interest via many kind souls who 
>>> send them over to me when I ask via email and I acknowledge their 
>>> altruism in helping me out. There are many journals that are free 
>>> after varying amounts of time. I can get access say after 6 months 
>>> or a year and some are free access for India (for Eg Lancet / NEJM 
>>> etc). Unfortunately the free access system (after a period of time) 
>>> does not exist for cardiac surgical journals except a couple.
>>> The whole process of journal writing etc are to allow dissemination 
>>> of Knowledge and I cannot see why it has to be locked down after say 
>>> 6 months or a year. I appreciate that journal publishing companies 
>>> have to make profits but they should allow free access at least 
>>> after some time. The contributors and editors have done it for 
>>> gratis and they should allow access after some time. This would 
>>> increase the journal's prestige and impact factor anyway.
>>> All I have is a few old dusty copies of some earth shaking articles 
>>> for eg Lillehei's original cross circulation paper and Hillel Laks 
>>> "Laks suture" (fenestrated ASD for Fontan's) etc. I hold on to these.
>>> Then there is a thing called Amedeo which sends interesting articles 
>>> (the titles and links to PUBMED) weekly which I find useful and 
>>> PUBMED is great for doing literature searches.
>>>
>>> I remember taking around 50 disks of Silver Platter and searching 
>>> Index Medicus or worse the huge bound Journals of Index Medicus that 
>>> I had to wade through when I did my MS(Gen surg) and MCh(Thoracic) 
>>> degrees. I had to wear a mask and cap while I rummaged through all 
>>> those books. My MS thesis was on gall stones and since I read every 
>>> reference that I quoted, I was searching in the really old archived 
>>> section of Grant Medical College (which is around 170 years old and 
>>> so had most of the really old journals). Since photocopying was not 
>>> very prevalent and expensive , most of these used to be read and the 
>>> article summarized in a note book.I used to have a carbon paper copy 
>>> of each page while writing. Writing a thesis was actually involving 
>>> cut and paste (we used to write it in sections and then actually cut 
>>> out portions and paste them on sheets) -I still remember Jimmy 
>>> Carter getting one of the original word processors (basically what 
>>> we could call as an electronic typewriter) and when I saw my first 
>>> one. I said Wow it can justify edges and we can correct the lines 
>>> prior to typing using a preview option. My first thesis was written 
>>> when I was doing my MBBS  - (I had got a research grant as a first 
>>> year medical student - a rare thing in India those days) and typing 
>>> on a manual typewriter was such a pain and getting some one to type 
>>> who could understand medical terminology was a bigger pain !! At 
>>> that time photocopying was such a laborious process (I am sure many 
>>> would remember the old manual photocopiers involving a frame with 
>>> toner that used to be shaked and the margins of the photocopier 
>>> surface had to be wiped etc) Writing it down was easier !!
>>> The final indexing was a tremendous pain invovling flash cards and 
>>> indexing cards !!
>>> Today we can do it all in a click of a button !!!
>>> Dr Frater could probably tell about his tribulations  in his time !!
>>> Prasanna
>>> Michael Firstenberg wrote:
>>>> I used to like the idea of entire bookselves filled with Journals - 
>>>> now they just take up tons of space.  Since, for the most part the 
>>>> internet and PDF access (at least to recent stuff) is easy - does 
>>>> anyone keep this stuff anymore?  if so why?
>>>>
>>>> Am I just being sentimental for the old days?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HAPPY NEW YEAR to all
>>>>
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