[HSF] double negatives

[Tea Acuff]

NASA we have a problem...maybe it is me

tea


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From: psimha <prasannasimha at gmail.com>
To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2007 12:37:02 PM
Subject: Re: [HSF] double negatives


Now that is the definition of unambiguous  Tea style - well it does seem 
precise to a T but I did not understand a single sentence .
Prasanna
Tea Acuff wrote:
> I was not intentionally ambiguous, but I was trying to be both succinct and narrow in my point. Michael touched one point and went flowing down a different stream. You stopped on perhaps another rock and looked for directions.
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> Unfortunately meaning cannot be placed into specific positions on a spread sheet. When one pushes beyond noting specific things or events (Kant's ding an sich) and beyond the assumption that my three vessel patient is exactly the same as your patient, to the patterns and powers that hold nature and us with it together, we quickly note that logic and position alone (a type of Newtonian reduction) do not suffice to follow to new ideas or even as one skips from one effect to the next. By our standard and preferred way of thinking meaning (and its sense of value) does not exist except by inference which is, critically speaking, subjective, malleable, and largely unreal. As demonstrated by this confused concept of "killing healers", we often import meaning from one space to another. We all know those that seem to be of two minds and two languages: one scientific and the other meaningful (eg religious, political, etc.) perhaps including ourselves. My contention is that we over
>  sell the use of our rational (reductionist) thought to include all proper actions, but ignore the fact that our method has unsolvable flaws, unexpressed assumptions, and actually totally dismisses access to meaning. This is why I think we are in need of new ways of thinking about evidence and reality in medicine. If Dr. Novick can be an entrepreneurial example to the world, why can't we in medicine be an example to more complete ways of thinking? We actually study humans and their responses do we not? Does it matter that we look more at the heart than the brain? I know that this is why I am in medicine. It is my window for the study of meaning and that which is most real.
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ani Anyanwu <anianyanwu at hotmail.com>
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2007 10:42:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [HSF] double negatives
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> Can you please translate into English Tea. I presume the ambiguity is intended but at least let us know what you are really saying.
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> Ani
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tea Acuff
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:38 AM
> To: OpenHeart-L
> Subject: [HSF] double negatives
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> Speaking of double negatives has anyone noted the sense of incredulity in the reports on the Muslim doctors in the UK who played a part in the terrorist attacks. This is from the same media sources that usually talk of our (as physicians) failures, negligence, and greed. The concept of killing healers is really a contradiction deep in the psyche of the West despite its mouth piece preference for jaded pseudo sophistication.  
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