[HSF] double negatives

[Tea Acuff]

Now that you have me on the run you guys are just playing me. 
You sound like my wife. I know everyone knows EXACTLY what i am saying now...
tea 
 



----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Firstenberg <msfirst at gmail.com>
To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2007 2:57:54 PM
Subject: Re: [HSF] double negatives


what?

does anyone understand Tea?

On Jul 4, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Tea Acuff wrote:

> I was not intentionally ambiguous, but I was trying to be both  
> succinct and narrow in my point. Michael touched one point and went  
> flowing down a different stream. You stopped on perhaps another  
> rock and looked for directions.
>
> Unfortunately meaning cannot be placed into specific positions on a  
> spread sheet. When one pushes beyond noting specific things or  
> events (Kant's ding an sich) and beyond the assumption that my  
> three vessel patient is exactly the same as your patient, to the  
> patterns and powers that hold nature and us with it together, we  
> quickly note that logic and position alone (a type of Newtonian  
> reduction) do not suffice to follow to new ideas or even as one  
> skips from one effect to the next. By our standard and preferred  
> way of thinking meaning (and its sense of value) does not exist  
> except by inference which is, critically speaking, subjective,  
> malleable, and largely unreal. As demonstrated by this confused  
> concept of "killing healers", we often import meaning from one  
> space to another. We all know those that seem to be of two minds  
> and two languages: one scientific and the other meaningful (eg  
> religious, political, etc.) perhaps including ourselves. My  
> contention is that we over
>  sell the use of our rational (reductionist) thought to include all  
> proper actions, but ignore the fact that our method has unsolvable  
> flaws, unexpressed assumptions, and actually totally dismisses  
> access to meaning. This is why I think we are in need of new ways  
> of thinking about evidence and reality in medicine. If Dr. Novick  
> can be an entrepreneurial example to the world, why can't we in  
> medicine be an example to more complete ways of thinking? We  
> actually study humans and their responses do we not? Does it matter  
> that we look more at the heart than the brain? I know that this is  
> why I am in medicine. It is my window for the study of meaning and  
> that which is most real.
>
> tea
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ani Anyanwu <anianyanwu at hotmail.com>
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2007 10:42:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [HSF] double negatives
>
>
> ???
>
> Can you please translate into English Tea. I presume the ambiguity  
> is intended but at least let us know what you are really saying.
>
> Ani
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tea Acuff
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:38 AM
> To: OpenHeart-L
> Subject: [HSF] double negatives
>
> Speaking of double negatives has anyone noted the sense of  
> incredulity in the reports on the Muslim doctors in the UK who  
> played a part in the terrorist attacks. This is from the same media  
> sources that usually talk of our (as physicians) failures,  
> negligence, and greed. The concept of killing healers is really a  
> contradiction deep in the psyche of the West despite its mouth  
> piece preference for jaded pseudo sophistication.
>
> tea
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