[HSF] To Treat the Dead(OT)
Ben Bidstrup
benjamin.bidstrup at bigpond.com
Thu May 3 15:24:50 EDT 2007
Not me, mine is P.
>Aborting apoptosis sounds like a modern French novel...
>
>BWB...is that Ben Bistrup better known just as "W"?
>
>
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>From: Donald Ross <donross at bigpond.com>
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>Tea,
>This is very interesting and dovetails with recent interest in the
>fact that the mitachondria are turned off in cancer cells which
>exclusively use anaerobic metabolism. A drug which turns the
>mitachondria back on so they can get on with apoptosis has had some
>success in regressing tumours in rats.
>The scenario of a LM closure with global ischaemia which is a
>notorious difficult to fix may be an area where our management could
>be changed by say, perfusing retrograde with cold saline and delaying
>the opening of grafts for ????? how long.
>Don
>
>PS "aborting apoptosis" is a lovely catch cry which would horrify BWB
>
>On 02/05/2007, at 9:24 AM, Tea Acuff wrote:
>
>> I wondered it anyone has been doing any study in this space...the
>> putative dead. Some of this would make sense with the gap I am
>> seeing on cardiac MR between live but "hybernating" muscle that
>> responds (eventually) to revascularization and old scar. The stuff
>> in the gap is thinned out muscle without scarrring, which is what
>> one expect to see if apoptosis is the cause. I don't think this
>> article is referring to the anoxic brain, but maybe that is a space
>> for work also.
>> Tomas, any comments on the heart?
>> tea
>>
>> See article below:
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18368186/site/newsweek?GT1=9951
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