[HSF] AAA and CABG
John Schor
johnschor at mac.com
Mon Apr 14 17:58:06 EDT 2008
I disagree with Mitch on the timing of AAA repair. 7 cm AAA post op
from CABG is at high risk for rupture in my opinion. If an EVAR
candidate I would do this no later than post op day 4-5, possibly even
at the same setting as the CABG--if all goes well.
If EVAR not appropriate, consider sooner rather than later (2-4 wks).
There is no worse feeling for you or the pt's family than for rupture
to occur while "waiting".
I agree with Mitch on the Passover wishes.
John
John Schor, MD
Verde Valley Medical Center
Cottonwood, AZ
Tel: 928-649-2584
On Apr 14, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Mitch Lirtzman wrote:
> Dr. Sharoni,
> First, I would evaluate for EVAR. If the patient is a candidate, and
> the AAA is asymptomatic, I would wait 2-4 weeks post op. Definitely
> do the CABG first. Keep him happy and stable. If not an EVAR
> candidate, 6 weeks. In these instances, I continually reinforce to
> patient and reassure the family the importance of observing for
> symptoms. ANY abdominal, back or flank pain that is not related to
> last night's burrito (perhaps not in Israel), they need to get to
> the nearest ER, if not mine, and have the doc call me directly and
> "I will operate on the patient any time, day or night". Though
> these folks are known to be at higher risk for post op rupture, that
> has not been my experience.
>
> Happy Pesach.
>
> Mitch LirtzmanAt 02:55 PM 4/14/2008, you wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> I remember this was a discussed issue once - looking for a
>> reference about
>> timingg of CABG operation in a 7 cm AAA - before, after -
>> concomitant?
>> We have a Pt with a 7 cm AAA who was sent by anaesthesia for a cath
>> based on
>> abnormal perfusion scan (cleared by cardiology for operation based
>> on this
>> scan) sure enough - TVD - needs CABG.
>> Needs some urgent answers Based on the literature and personal
>> experience.
>> Thanks in advance
>> Erez Sharoni
>> Israel
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