[HSF] DVT in cardiac sugery
Ben Bidstrup
benjamin.bidstrup at bigpond.com
Tue Apr 22 13:14:44 EDT 2008
No more than warfarin does.
>o the article as I read it suggests that we trade a 15-20% risk of
>DVT and .5-4% risk of PE for a 4% risk of bleeding. This is of
>coursed based on analogous indirect evidence, not direct data. Do we
>all concur that rountine post op heparinization will not increase
>the risk of pericardial "effusions" (sic) ?
>
>tea
>
>
>
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>From: Edward Bender <ebender001 at charter.net>
>To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 4:41:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [HSF] DVT in cardiac sugery
>
>Tea:
>Here is an interesting article from UK:
>Interactive CardioVascular and Thoracic Surgery 2006;5:624.
>Abstract:
>A best evidence topic in cardiac surgery was written according to a
>structured protocol. The question addressed was whether the use of
>prophylactic postoperative low molecular weight heparin (LMWH) or
>unfractionated heparin after cardiac surgery would significantly reduce
>morbidity by reducing the incidence of deep vein thromboses (DVTs) and
>pulmonary emboli (PEs). Altogether 390 papers were identified on Medline.
>Relevant major guidelines were also search together with their reference
>lists. 16 papers represented the best evidence on the topic. The author,
>journal, date and country of publication, patient group studied, study type,
>relevant outcomes, results and study weaknesses were tabulated. We conclude
>that the benefit of heparin prophylaxis for the prevention of DVTs and PEs
>is well established in non-cardiac surgery with reductions in the incidence
>of DVTs reported to be of the order of 50-70% in orthopaedic, general and
>obstetric surgery and in general medicine. No studies have yet been
>performed in cardiac surgery, but contrary to the view that DVTs are rare,
>in fact the incidence of DVT post-cardiac surgery is up to 15-20% and the
>incidence of PE is around 0.5 to 4% although many of these occur after
>discharge and many may be difficult to detect clinically. This is similar to
>the incidence of patients undergoing high risk general surgery. There is no
>evidence that heparin prophylaxis started the day after surgery increases
>the risk of pericardial effusions and the risk of bleeding complications is
>estimated to be 4%. Thus we recommend that all patients post-cardiac surgery
>be commenced on heparin prophylaxis the day after their surgery and continue
>this up to discharge even if mobile. The particular regime should be guided
>by the ACCP recommendations for prophylaxis in high risk general surgical
>patients. Keywords: Low molecular weight heparin; Venous thrombosis;
>Pulmonary embolism
>
>
>On 4/20/08 2:57 PM, "Tea Acuff" <tacuff at swbell.net> wrote:
>
>> One of the peculiarities of our new heart hospital is that we are partnered
>> which a local hospital system (Baylor). One of the "benefits" of such
>> arrangement is that for reasons that are somewhat mysterious we get some
>> (all?) of the best practice formulations developed by the flagship hospital
>> (medical) staff. At least that is my take on what suddenly appears on my
>> patients chart.
>>
>> One of these efforts is a 3 page DVT work sheet which we check the boxes and
>> sign an assessment page, a throw away page that explains the
>>graded risks, and
>> a third full page for selection of various prophylaxis options.
>>Interestingly,
>> despite many categories for risk and contra indications no where on this
>> document is there mention of other procedure but no specific mention of
>> cardiac surgery, which is obviously the bulk of what we do at the heart
>> hospital.
>>
>> As a bias my present practice is not to rountinely prophylax except for the
>> dubious TED hose. Before I start (rather before it becomes noticable) that i
>> am markedly out of step, does anyone have information or comments on these
>> following points?
>>
>> 1) Is there specific data on the risk and benefits of DVT prophylaxis for
>> cardiac patients or any particular subset of rountine CV patients?
>>
>> 2) If there is data, does it break out effects for on and off pump, ASA,
> > plavix, aprotonin, fast track (aggressive mobilization and discharge) and
>> other relevant variables?
>>
>> 3) If there are studies of mechanical compression devices for
>>these patients,
>> are there comparisons of fast track verses immobility (the default nursing
>> solution for all the insulin drips, bladder and invasive lines,
>>etc)? IE does
>> a device that has to be hooked up and taken off repeatedly help or hurt with
>> DVT compared to mobilization?
>>
>> 4) If there is no data how do others stratify their patients at
>>risk? Is just
>> being in the hospital ipso facto a risk, one that favors treatment? Does LOS
>> not really matter?
>>
>> tea
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