[HSF] Just say no?

Nasser F. Abou'Seada nfaabouseada at gmail.com
Wed Feb 13 19:13:19 EST 2008


"Nasser,
? I'm so embarrassed.? You're absolutely right.? The Germans never made it
past Moscow or Stalingrad.?"

Dear Hal ..... haha ... never mind ... I was questioning my knowledge when
Michael mention Pearl Harbour ...... hahaha ...  east Europe or Former
Russia .... NAZI or STALIN .... in our minds we tend to "gather" similar
things and situations ... all oppressions .... hahahah ....

NFA

On Feb 13, 2008 1:32 PM, <hgrmd at aol.com> wrote:

> Nasser,
> ? I'm so embarrassed.? You're absolutely right.? The Germans never made it
> past Moscow or Stalingrad.? The patient was from western Russia.? The
> patient's son, a prominent orthopedic surgeon in my community, relates how
> he was just a boy in WWII.? He remembers the near starvation.? He even had
> scurvy when he was 6.? I'm telling you, these people are hardy survivors
> whom I greatly admire.
>
> Hal
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nasser F. Abou'Seada <nfaabouseada at gmail.com>
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Sent: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 1:37 pm
> Subject: Re: [HSF] Just say no?
>
>
>
>  "survived the Nazis in eastern Russia"
> ......... ????
> Were there NAZIs in EASTERN .... and ... RUSSIA ???
>
> NFA
>
>
>
> On Feb 13, 2008 6:45 AM, <Hgrmd at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Michael,
> >  In considering an AVR/CABG in a 92 yo man with a broken hip, it is
> > imperative that you do a lot of research before making a decision.  What
> >  was the
> > patient's quality of life prior to the accident?  Was he driving,
>  living
> > alone,
> > shopping, playing cards, etc., or was he mainly vegetating in  front of
> a
> > TV
> > not recalling what he had for breakfast?  Good kidneys?   Good lungs?
>  Is
> > the
> > family committed to him getting well?  Are they  likely to pull the plug
> > if he
> > isn't sitting in a chair eating pork chops on  POD#1?
> >  I've done quite a few nonagenarians in my career with reasonable
> >  results.
> > I would suspect my overall mortality rate with them is  15-20%.  The
> last
> > one
> > I did was 3 months ago.  He was a 96 yo man with  critical a.s., severe
> > MR,
> > severe TR, chronic AF, and previous CABG with a patent  LIMA.  I did 3
> > valves,
> > a graft to the RCA, and a Cox-maze.  He was  intubated for 2 weeks and
> > needed
> > several days of dialysis.  However, he  pulled through and is now back
> at
> > home, off dialysis, doing reasonably  well.  One of the things that went
> > into my
> > decision to operate was the fact  that he was a Jew who survived the
> Nazis
> > in
> > eastern Russia.  I knew he was  a tough old bird.
> >
> > Hal
> >
> >
> >
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