[HSF] First bioartificial heart may signal end of organ shortage
Tea Acuff
tacuff at swbell.net
Fri Jan 18 19:58:14 EST 2008
thanks for the story, Ed. Haven't heard much from you.
tea
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Years ago I was on a commercial airline flight (a painful experience in and
of itself as the owner of a private aircraft) and sat next to a rather
ordinary looking woman. It turned out, however, that she happened to be the Vice
President of Research and Development of a major, and to remain unnamed, major
medical device company. We had a very interesting conversation. I asked
her what her company would do if they came upon an idea, process or invention
that would "cure" or substantially reduce the incidence of atherosclerotic
heart disease. To my astonishment she said it would never see the light of day.
They would buy it, bury it and it would never come to fruition. She
thought that should be reassuring to me as a cardiac surgeon. I hope that is a
minority opinion in industry but perhaps it is naive, nonetheless, to believe it
would not be true.
Ed
Edward P. Raines, M.D., J.D.
BryanLGH Cardiothoracic Surgery
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In a message dated 1/15/2008 5:16:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
benjamin.bidstrup at bigpond.com writes:
Bob, What is more sexy? What tantalizes shareholders and venture
capitalists? Not a prevention for heart disease? No way!
>Dear Prasanna,
>
>I am well aware of what a great company Tata is. I made an egregious
>error;?had meant to say Nano, which I am sure you will agree is not
>an attempt to make the strongest, highest performing, most durable
>car in the world. Nor will custom heart companies try to produce a
>heart at a price affordable to the great bulk of patients needing a
>new heart.
>In the heart valve designs I am working on at present we start by
>setting the highest possible performance standards and then step by
>step work on the cheapest method of achieving those standards with a
>target price substantially less than the Nano.
>I suppose it is fair to do a cost accounting comparing a total
>effort to prevent heart disease and the development of an artificial
>biological heart.
>Bob
>
>
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>From: Prasanna Simha M <prasannasimha at gmail.com>
>To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
>Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 3:22 am
>Subject: Re: [HSF] First bioartificial heart may signal end of organ
shortage
>
>
>
>
>Tata's are venturing to make the Nano (the cheapest car in the world) while
>they do manufacture mid segment cars and are planning to buy Jaguar and
>Rover and also enter the luxury car segment. Incidentally they are the
>third largest steel company in the world !! (and are into a host of other
>ventures in telecom IT etc etc.) One share of Tata's incidentally has
>increased shareholder wealth by 50,000 times in the last 40 years !!! It is
>also considered one of the most "ethical " companies in the world and if
>they were to make a heart you bet it would be low cost and also
>manufactured with the best possible practices and disclosures !!
>Prasanna
>
>On Jan 15, 2008 1:27 PM, <rwmfglycar at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> If you think we have a two tier system now what do you think it will be
>> like when the custom heart factories get going. They won't be making
Tata's,
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tea Acuff <tacuff at swbell.net>
>> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
>> Sent: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 6:43 pm
>> Subject: Re: [HSF] First bioartificial heart may signal end of organ
>> shortage
>>
>>
>>
>> It was my wife who found it on a conservative blog. It was picked up by
>> CNN
>> today. My wife reads the HSF so that you Aussies will not know more about
>> what I
>> am thinking than she does. The only anachronism in your senario is the
>> newspaper. It was Minnesota, not Massachuetts, another geographical
>> detail. The
>> driver is the E3, the Electronic English Empire. Think about that one.
One
>> has
>> to carry many metaphors if reality is to have any sense. Concrete
thinking
>> perishes into dust.
>>
>> Assuming that we can get not only a living but a functional heart in the
>> next
>> decade, I have another "backward" thought. Will we specialists make the
>> heart on
>> site to order as in the old days or will other specialists make hundreds
>> of
>> thousands of them off site by custom order? How the world is ordered
> > (arranged,
>> not directed which shows some of my bias) makes a huge difference, no
>> matter
>> from which direction or from where one is looking.
>>
>> tea
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Donald Ross <donross at bigpond.com>
>> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:23:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [HSF] First bioartificial heart may signal end of organ
>> shortage
>>
>> tea,
>> How come you had to read a British newspaper to find out what is
>> happening in Massachusetts?
>> Don
>> On 14/01/2008, at 10:55 AM, Tea Acuff wrote:
>>
>> > I thought the HSF might find this interesting. This pictures are
>> > certainly cool. This matrix is the same concept of the Cormatrix
>> > patch that I have mentioned to replace tissue (perhaps at SVR).
>> >
>> > This technique highlights another backward way of thinking. We
>> > shouldn't take new or stem cells to the old heart, we should
> > > attract the body's own cells to the matrix (in this case ex vivo)
>> >
>> > It also illustrates one of the things that I think should be
>> > different about how we go about thinking. We will not get our best
>> > ideas, or perhaps even evidence from our stolid journals that the
>> > risk adverse read, but by finding ideas from every where (they
>> > seldom fall from the sky or on top of the mountain) and
>> > "rethinking" them in our space for our concerns.
>> >
>> > http://vezoa.notlong.com
>> > Password: bjn-kdkf
>> >
>> >
>> > tea
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