[HSF] Anticoagulation after mitral repair
Tea Acuff
tacuff at swbell.net
Wed Mar 19 21:49:46 EDT 2008
Surely you can show us, Prasanna, so I can give proper credit.
tea
----- Original Message ----
From: Prasanna Simha M <prasannasimha at gmail.com>
To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:55:07 PM
Subject: Re: [HSF] Anticoagulation after mitral repair
This was a reply to an email nearly 2 years ago !!
Prasanna
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Tea Acuff <tacuff at swbell.net> wrote:
> "Should I toss umpteen years of
> >practice protocol out the window for this type of result?"
>
> Only if you envision a different and better world.
>
> "Are there analogies in other
> >human endeavors that can help light the way to truth?"
>
> Ever talked with someone that lost a child?
>
> Sorry for your loss.
>
> tea
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ben Bidstrup <benjamin.bidstrup at bigpond.com>
> To: OpenHeart-L at lists.hsforum.com
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:15:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [HSF] Anticoagulation after mitral repair
>
> >Last week I did a mitral repair on a 73 year old male. He had LVEF
> >70%, normal sinus rhythm, no coronary disease, normal or slightly
> >elevated PA pressures. I performed a quadarangular resection of a
> >P2 flail, a classic plication of the posterior annulus and placement
> >of a CG future band. No MR or complications post op. No a-fib or
> >other arrhythmias. On post-op day 5, I was sitting and talking to
> >him about discharge instructions and his medications when right
> >before my eyes he has a huge right hemispheric CVA. Two minutes
> >previously he was talking normally, and suddenly he has dense left
> >hemiplegia with difficult to understand speech. Normal carotid
> >arteries and immediate echo shows no thrombus and no MR with good EF
> >and sinus rhythm. I did use one pledgeted stitch for the annulus.
> >I have not been anticoagulating these types of patients post-op and
> >have never had a CVA in this type of patient either. Should these
> >folks be anticoagulated for a period of time post-op? Incidentally,
> >one of my partners (whose routine it is to anticoagulate for 6 weeks
> >after mitral repair) had a patient with an INR of 2 on Coumadin have
> >a MASSIVE retroperitoneal bleed on post-op day 4.
> >
> >Is there a right or wrong approach. Should I toss umpteen years of
> >practice protocol out the window for this type of result? I know we
> >have had this type of discussion before, but how should one case
> >influence a previous body of work? Are there analogies in other
> >human endeavors that can help light the way to truth?
> >
> >Signed a very frustrated
> >Ed Bender, MD
> >_______________________________________________
> Every thing we do has a risk and a benefit. We quote mortalities of
> <1% but that means that somewhere along the line 1 in say 200 will
> die for no apparent cause. We will agonise over what we have done and
> come up with maybe some suggestions. The same applies to stroke,
> renal failure, GI Bleeds etc. At the STS Eric Jamieson reported on
> anticoagulation in AVR (IMHO not too dissimilar a situation). I try
> and avoid warfarin as I see more complications related to that than
> to not using it. It will be perhaps easier in a year or 2 when some
> of the newer oral agents (Factor Xa inhibitors oral once daily) or
> direct thrombin inhibitors become available. Xemilgatran
> unfortunately was a fizzer.
> I do not anticoagulate AVRs or MV repairs with warfarin. ASA alone.
> There is no evidence to support the addition of clopidogrel unless
> there is aspirin resistance, and I would suggest that the risks of
> using it would be higher than not.
> --
> Ben Bidstrup FRACS FRCSEd FEBCTS
> Consultant Cardiothoracic Surgeon
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